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龙白滔's avatar

Glenn, thanks for insights and sharing. You might have missed one point that OECD countries also have social transfer in-kind from government to household. US's social transfer in-kind accounts for ~6% of GDP, almost the lowest among OECDs. Regarding the first chart you use in this article. "household consumption as % of GDP (2021)", the OECD data actually don't include social transfer in-kind. e.g. the household consumption of US 2021 is 68% and 74% for excluding and including social transfer in-kind respectively. It's clear that the US data is 68% in your chart. You can refer to "OECD (2023), Household spending (indicator). doi: 10.1787/b5f46047-en (Accessed on 19 September 2023)" for the details. Be noted to choose "including government transfers" if you want to include transfer in-kind. Also be noted that the data for China is not updated. China has officially included "social transfer in-kind" in NIPA accounting since 2018, and named it as "the actual final comsumption". I don't think my point will disapprove your conclusion on which I fully agree with you, but it does weaken it somehow.

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Robert Wu's avatar

Glenn, you have explained GDP better than my economics professor. I am very grateful for this piece. I was always confused about how terms like "Consumption" and "Savings" correspond with day-to-day usage. No one seems to be asking, and academics seem to treat this type of question as non-issue, only to laugh at. But I believe this is precisely the most relevant question to ask. Unfortunately, I guess you won't seal the debate with your wonderful writing for how China stacks up against these definitions. Doubters gonna doubt, believers gonna believe. But I will give you 100% credit for helping readers understand basic concept like GDP.

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